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I feel like recently I've regressed to my high school brain--I am just bursting with explosive motivation for LANGUAGES day and night all the time, I want to be good, really good, at all of them NAO and it's so frustrating I can't just work on them ALL AT ONCE and get to the point where I want to be IMMEDIATELY. It's so annoying that I'm not really skilled at all of them already. It kills me! I feel like part of my problem though, is organization, so I've tried to slow my racing mind down a bit to try to dissect what my goals really ARE and what I should be doing about each of them.


1. Spanish
Goals: As close to perfection as I can get it, in every sense.
Methods: 1.Reading as much as possible, saving words, actually being assed to make Anki decks out of the words and STUDY THEM!! 2.Speaking more, talking to Andres in Spanish all the time, even if he answers in English. 3.Integrating Spanish into things like studying; looking up stuff I want to know in Spanish, not English, and reading that instead 4. Playing games (I have Wakfu and Diablo 3 in Spanish, might as well try to play more) 5.Seeking out clips of COLLOQUIAL speech (more comedic skits, homemade videos...etc) 6.Listening to news and such in Spanish when possible

2. Portuguese
Goals: Ideally, also perfection, but in the short term: getting better at producing, written and spoken
Methods: 1.Continue Pimsleur lessons, focus heavily on pronunciation 2.Listening to podcasts and news, focusing on phrasing/word choices, and how vocab differs from Spanish especially 3.Review textbook, vocab and grammar 4. When confident, start writing more things, even if they're just blurbs 5. Seek out conversational partners online?

3. German
Goals: To get better at all aspects: understanding and producing, written and spoken. Goal is improvement, not perfection
Methods: 1. Get back into the flow of Anki, adding words wherever I find them (this includes going back through old chat logs and adding those words) 2. Reading, even if it's painstakingly going through news articles or the little crappy books I bought, add words to Anki and study 3. Go back and review all grammar from old textbook lessons; finish final chapter to complete the book 4.Continually chat with Ray and Tommy in as much German as possible, potentially eventually seek out native speakers to chat? 5. Continue Pimsleur lessons, making special note of pronunciation

4. French
Goals: To get better at comprehension: primarily spoken, but also written as well. Ideally I'd like to be able to understand spoken French at least as well as I understand spoken Portuguese
Methods: 1. Read articles occasionally, making note of unfamiliar vocabulary and hopefully refreshing rusty vocab 2. Listen to All The Things. Trying to pay attention and catch whatever I can. Watch online documentaries, listen to podcasts, etc. 3. Pimsleur lessons, focusing on misconceptions about pronunciation and trying to improve them

5. Japanese
Goals: Just general interest, no ambitious goals at this time
Methods: 1. Continue pimsleur lessons.

6. Chinese and ASL
Goals: General enthusiastic interest, Idek know where to start or if I even should.
Methods: ??

Idk. I think I have everything pretty much covered in terms of my options. For my other language-learny friends, is there anything else I didn't mention that you like to do? (Also, should I start working on Chinese/ASL/both? Where should I start?)

Date: 2012-10-19 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemini-artemis.livejournal.com
Should I start commenting on your posts in Portuguese? Or, if you have Skype, we could totally chat there, either just writing or speaking.

For Japanese, I posted a few short lessons. The focus is grammar, but maybe they could be of some use to you.

I feel the same way about Chinese, though... I keep trying to learn it, but I haven't yet figured out what's the best method for me, so I never go very far with it and sometimes I wonder if I should even bother. XD

Date: 2012-10-22 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrowwhiskers.livejournal.com
Honestly, comment in whatever language is most comfortable or makes the most sense. :) I have friends with whom I try to use only Spanish or only English, and sometimes to say what you want to, one language is just--more appropriate! And so I don't want to say "ALWAYS PORTUGUESE" but if the mood strikes you, then please! :D

I do have Skype, but I don't use it much and often forget I have it o.o; Also, I know I probably SHOULD be taking advantage of the opportunity and writing to you in Portuguese but I feel really shaky on my proper recollection of grammar and that completely destroys my confidence. ><; My goal is to at least review grammar this week to make sure and then after that maybe we can chat. :D At the moment I think I'm too much of a wuss, lol. I've let myself forget too much >.o;

Also your lessons are awesome ^^ I actually know most of that stuff, cause I took a semester of Japanese in college and remember most of it passively, but idk. Sometimes I feel like I want to really devote myself to Japanese but then I realize how many times I've been like "this time for sure!" and then fallen off the wagon and it kind of makes me feel like it's a lost cause, haha.

As for Chinese, yeah, idk. :S I feel like without a class, and someone to be there speaking at you and correcting you and everything, there's just really no way. My roommate is studying Chinese in college, and even with classes 5 days a week, she's struggling a lot.

Date: 2012-10-22 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemini-artemis.livejournal.com
Bom, vou tentar responder em português desta vez. O problema é que eu estou tão acostumada a escrever em inglês aqui no LJ que às vezes nem percebo que língua estou usando e acabo conversando em inglês até mesmo com outros brasileiros. XD E também porque, como você disse, tem situações em que usar esta ou aquela língua é melhor, não se sabe bem por quê.

Você não precisa ficar nervosa nem com vergonha de conversar comigo em português! Mesmo que você cometa alguns erros ou misture com espanhol ou o que for, pra mim isso não é problema nenhum. Por outro lado, eu entendo perfeitamente como você se sente. Eu também tenho uma amiga da Itália que está sempre disposta a me ajudar, e eu sei que eu deveria aproveitar para treinar o meu italiano com ela, mas quase sempre a gente conversa em inglês mesmo. Em parte por preguiça minha, em parte por vergonha de errar, em parte para me expressar melhor e mais rápido, em parte para não ter a conversa interrompida constantemente para ela me corrigir.

O que você disse a respeito do japonês é exatamente como eu faço com chinês. XD Acho que uma vez a cada dois meses eu penso: "Desta vez eu consigo passar da primeira lição!" Mas aí me lembro que aprender chinês dá tanto trabalho quanto aprender japonês, e eu simplesmente não tenho mais nem paciência nem neurônios o suficiente para isso. XD Mesma coisa pro árabe...

Date: 2012-10-26 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrowwhiskers.livejournal.com
Sinto muito não ter respondido >o

Date: 2012-10-26 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrowwhiskers.livejournal.com
Hum, LJ comeu minha resposta o.O; Mas eu disse mais ou menos:

Que sim, entendo bem, que há lugares no internet onde o inglês e a língua mais normal, não importa quém fale ou de onde venha. xD

E..vou tratar de usar um pouco mais o português (especialmente com você :) ), mas eu tive esse objetivo por muito tempo...vamos ver se eu puder finalmente xD Heheh..

Estou segura de que o seu chinês é melhor que você acha, (poder escrever um parágrafo é um feito considerável ;) ) Mais sim, posso imaginar que é muito dificil avançar.

Date: 2012-10-26 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemini-artemis.livejournal.com
Acho que o LJ corta os comentários quando você usa o símbolo > ao contrário.

Fique à vontade para me escrever em português mesmo que eu esteja usando outra língua! Mas também não precisa se sentir na obrigação de falar comigo em português mesmo quando você não está a fim. XD

Não, eu não consigo escrever um parágrafo inteiro em chinês, a não ser que seja uma simples auto-apresentação ou um monte de frases bem básicas. D: Talvez se eu me preocupasse mais com a gramática (que nem é tão difícil), não seria um monstro de sete cabeças. Os caracteres é que desanimam muito...

Date: 2012-10-20 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quabazaa.livejournal.com
Oooh for ASL you have got to watch this series called Switched at Birth! It's amazing and the characters are great, it's not chesy at all even tho the premise sounds like it should be. I learn NZSL but I still love watching it and it has really inspired me to practise it lately and learn a little AUSLAN. Good luck with the rest of your goals :) I would have written this in Spanish but I still feel like crap sigh!

Date: 2012-10-22 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrowwhiskers.livejournal.com
Está bien!! Entiendo bien ><;

No me di cuenta de que era una serie popular de televisión o.o; Hay un personaje sordo o? Voy a tener que ver si está en Netflix o no...porque parece que no hay episodios en Youtube. :( Pero lo buscaré gracias por la recomendación!

Date: 2012-10-20 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffyblanket.livejournal.com
You are an amazing polyglot !!!
Edited Date: 2012-10-20 04:57 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-22 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arrowwhiskers.livejournal.com
Haha thank you! Although being an amazing polyglot is less of the current reality and more of the eventual goal ;)

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